Saji: Small gestures w big impact
Been thinking about that a lot
And how it's always a trojan horse for the larger meanings/messages
Steven: Mmm
What do you say to the artist that have these big gestures in they work though
Cause you a Jeff Koons fan 
I would argue
That its still small gestures
He just does it in a big way
That nigga ain't doing no small gestures!!!
How any of his work a small gesture?
I guess when I say small I mean conceptually
Maybe I'm wrong
This is a small gesture?
Ahhh I get what you saying.
The concept being so simple is a small gesture
Excatyllyyyyy
That's what I mean
Now that I think about it most breakthroughs when it comes to art movements is led with that energy
Like. When you do the research and really care, you can do a conceptual "flic of the wrist" and it's still swaggy. I think the opposite is when people do too much for the look and not the feel/actual content
Like the best shit is when people first see it and say I can do that
Or a kid can do it
Is the classic response
Jack whitten was doing this thing with a tool he made called The Developer and it was basically a giant squeegee One "brush stroke" a painting
Yeah, now that I think about it, a small gesture can read as if the artist has these years of experience to where it's like second nature to them I did all this, living and I know how to articulate this idea in the most simplest way
Small gesture, huge feeling
It's like Kobe Bryant hitting to fadeaway shot. The reason why this nigga makes it look so easy because he did it 1000 times in the gym. Years of experience.
Bar 
Whitten's "developer"—a twelve-foot-long wooden rake invented by the artist to move large amounts of acrylic paint in a single gesture-resulted in his "slab" paintings, large color fields defined by a single movement.
Trying to find a pic, but the Wi-Fi on the plane is bad
Had mad different style phases and moments but you can see the connection
The thought process
Yeah its good its short
I go back to that vid alot
I've been thinking about Doris Salcedo alot too
Found out about her cuz they collect her work at Glenstone
Shes on a similar tip. Really refined
Don't know much about it but it has that feeling
She's beautiful 
Lmao nah fr. Im super curious about the work I just haven't done too much of a deep dive
Same I need to tap in
Who's your art wife?
Lmfao tf is so funny
Also, can't talk about small gestures big impact without bringing up the goat Cameron Rowland
Dick Rider!!!
You couldn't wait to drop that name, huh? Lmaooo
feel you about Senga tho
For meeeeeee....
Oh I know!
That one Cuban artist
She passed away
Lmfaooo
honestly love that nigga
Who you talking about tho?
lol
I'm trying to think
Fuckk
You know who I'm talking about
She's a small gesture, big impact queen to
......
Ana Mendieta!!!!
Bruh
Chill chill
Feds might be watching
Ofc
Honestly Carl did some shit literally in the same vein of what we are referring to
He deff did it tho 👀
Chilllllll 
Lmaooo
Got this tea proverb rn and its exactly what i'm meaning
Like. You make a garden to feed your body, your soul, work with the land, to survive, etc. but on the surface level its beautiful
To me anything worthwhile is like that
The look of it is just a bonus. A cherry on top. I think a lot of people are obsessed with just the look right now which is why a lot of things feel hollow
Yeah
It's a real muscle that niggas have to work on
To be patient
Learning to sit with the thing and grow
Niggas is top ramen
Sickness bro!!!
Immediate gratification is going to destroy us if we dont do something about it
As I get older, I realize how fast this shit can go
Like a successful artist has only five years tops
When you think about it
All forms too
Musicians, painters, designers
They get to this peak around year two or three
And then most cases they fade out
When you think of the exceptions the ones that live on
They had the slow burns
Miles Davis
David Bowie
Low-key not to be head ass, but Supreme lol
Them niggas been doing it for damn 40 yrs
You feel me?
Nah i do
I do i do
Slow burns
Beacuse they cared
Whatever the reason
Like these niggas had they explosion yr 20
Everything worthwhile is a practice. It all comes down to intention If you really love the thing there shouldnt be a rush
I mean nigga thats y we started protean, no?
To have an outlet to support ourselves through creativity and gifts, so our personal artworks and investigations dont have to be rushed and have the pressure of supporting
Come on now
The world we live in its kind of damn near unheard of
Your artwork eventually has to be sacrificed when it comes to most people because you just have to live
But you see the difference between the people that do it
Sometimes they suffer in the process
That shouldn't have to be the case
Yeah thats y Hammons is such a legend cuz he was just like fuck it ill be broke than to fuck w yall
Like for mad long
Slow burn and intentional always. And the crazy part is the world is catching up. Did you see how much that Felix Gonzales Torres work just sold for at auction?
It was like a few m's, right?
13!!!
Fuck!
Bro
Yeah.
I never thought work like that would sell that high. And maybe part of that is the finite aspect of the dead and people fetishizing that, art world hype, etc. but like the fact that people can see something so conceptual having that much value is hopeful in a way to me
not that money determines value but like. That shit was made by a young queer person of color about their hommies who died of aids kinda iconic.
Yeah
That's a beautiful way to look at it
I'm low-key starting to hate auction houses, though the more I learn about the whole concept of them
I feel like they shouldn't exist
I know that's extreme
Yeah shit is insane. I mean the history of slavery is largely tied to auction house history. It's icky in so many ways.
I just hate that they can determine the value of somebody's work
And how people be using them to purposely flush certain people career down the drain
Yeah
Did you read that article about all these kids our age who burst the market
in the times
shit is crazy. Its literally the slavery era auction block. Your price is determined and you are sold. Once you are deemed worthless your done
Yeah lemme try n find the article
It's gross
The fact that the artist can't get any of that fuck you money!!! Like bro, how am I not getting PC on that?
Thats y nfts in concept were cool how u see pc everytime a work is sold.
In reality fried obviously
Thats another thing i love about Camerons work. He be renting shit to people and taking it back. Doing slick shit thats kinda a fuck you but also part of the work.
He's the blueprint for sure
NY times paywall 
But I did hear about this article though!!!
I'm tripping
They all black artists too 
They were Poppin during the George Floyd riots
When the white folks was like we need to make more inclusive spaces
I don't know if we should put that
Is it too soon to mention George Floyd?
Nah, Talk about it lol
Bro can we get the scammer hommies or something to start popping pay walls and give the loop out to niggas
Like
The fuck
Lol
There's already people like that
Teejay 6
Imagine if there was a Teejayx6 type nigga for accessing pay wall literature and institution only academic papers
Lmao
It got to be you
You're the TJay6 for the academic niggas
Lmfao i was just telling shorty about that
My scamming days r long gone
Honestly tho.... Imagine a nigga whos doing some art scamming
Low-key
That white dude was on that timing He just got out of jail
It wasn't an art gesture that nigga was just scamming though
He's kind of handsome
Nah i guess he is
For a white nigga
Thats how we end the conversation
Cute white boy
